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CRM

CRM - equity - source-backed public claims only.

18published claims

5 longbullish claims

13 shortbearish claims

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Ethan Dingyoutube/ Apr 20

person

CRMSalesforce keeps posting double-digit growth now, but big customers are openly planning two-year exits to free cash for GPUs, and the per-seat model gets squeezed as AI agents do the work.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

Salesforce keeps posting double-digit growth now, but big customers are openly planning two-year exits to free cash for GPUs, and the per-seat model gets squeezed as AI agents do the work.

$185.76

— pending

SourceVerizon vs Salesforce, Signull Joins, Blue Origin's Test, Wild Tech Devices, Robot Marathon

“Yeah. How have you been processing the SaaSpocalypse narrative? Uh, Benioff was given some pushback. Uh, other folks were very bullish on it. There's a whole bunch of different data points. I've been just shocked that, uh, We haven't seen revenue declines from really any software company that's been targeted, although, you know, you could talk about the long term, but slowing growth, the growth like these companies are still growing even if they are in like the direct path of the AI companies.”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span63:50

TBPNyoutube/ Apr 20

person

CRMThe SaaSpocalypse hasn't shown up in the numbers, Salesforce revenue is reaccelerating from 8.7% to 10.8%, and customers aren't ripping it out for AI.

directional thesisLONGpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMLONG

The SaaSpocalypse hasn't shown up in the numbers, Salesforce revenue is reaccelerating from 8.7% to 10.8%, and customers aren't ripping it out for AI.

$186.81

— pending

SourceVerizon vs Salesforce, Signull Joins, Blue Origin's Test, Wild Tech Devices, Robot Marathon

“Benioff thinks the bears have it wrong about the SaaSpocalypse thesis generally, and especially about Salesforce. AI, he says, is making Salesforce more valuable to its customers than ever.”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span6:15

Naveen Gaviniyoutube/ Apr 22

person

CRMSalesforce is the short here, because if anyone can build the software they need in a few hours, the old seat-by-seat SaaS giants lose their grip.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

Salesforce is the short here, because if anyone can build the software they need in a few hours, the old seat-by-seat SaaS giants lose their grip.

$189.49

— pending

SourceCursor? The Space Company, Craziest Images 2.0, Spirit Bailout

“I believe in shorting SaaS if I can. That's probably what I believe in right now.”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span102:50

Doombergyoutube/ May 12

person

CRMSalesforce keeps sliding as AI agents gut the seat-based licensing model and a new wave of AI-native CRM upstarts chip at the system-of-record moat that justified its premium.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

Salesforce keeps sliding as AI agents gut the seat-based licensing model and a new wave of AI-native CRM upstarts chip at the system-of-record moat that justified its premium.

$170.68

— pending

SourceTrial Update, AI SPVs, Interaction Models, eBay Rejects, BuzzFeed Sold

“Yeah. I think there are 3 things that come to mind that differentiate Monaco relative to anything else in the market. And the third one is sort of the like—”

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Brad Gerstneryoutube/ May 29

person

CRMSalesforce is on the wrong side of AI. Its front-facing tools go head to head with the models instead of feeding them, so it has a harder road than the database players.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

Salesforce is on the wrong side of AI. Its front-facing tools go head to head with the models instead of feeding them, so it has a harder road than the database players.

$191.02

— pending

SourceJohn Gruber, Kyle Kuzma, Brad Gerstner

“the front-facing solutions that they offer are more competitive with the models than something like Snowflake. Snowflake's the enabler of the models, whereas I think that Salesforce competes a bit more. So it's going to be more challenging.”

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Mark Benioffyoutube/ Jun 1

person

CRMDemand is higher than ever, so we hired almost 20% more salespeople while AI let us freeze engineers and cut service staff, the SaaS death story is wrong.

directional thesisLONGpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMLONG

Demand is higher than ever, so we hired almost 20% more salespeople while AI let us freeze engineers and cut service staff, the SaaS death story is wrong.

$209.96

— pending

SourceYouTube Overtakes Hollywood, Sanders on AI, Anthropic IPO, SaaSpocalypse Over?

“I'm not hiring more engineers in fiscal year, you know, '26... because I was using coding agents... And I didn't hire more service agents in the year. I held it flat and then reduced it slightly because I'm using service agents.”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span57:05

Invest Like the Bestyoutube/ Sep 30

person

CRMThe golden SaaS model breaks when AI piles on heavy running costs, sales stays expensive, and customers can just build it themselves.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

The golden SaaS model breaks when AI piles on heavy running costs, sales stays expensive, and customers can just build it themselves.

$245.10

— pending

SourceInside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout | Dylan Patel Interview

“now you add this AI part of it, you've now added a humongous COGS, right? Your cost of goods sold in any AI software is really hard and really big.”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span118:19

Invest Like the Bestyoutube/ Dec 2

person

CRMSalesforce is a painful form-checker that AI is built to replace, since a proactive assistant pulling new unstructured data could finally rip it out of companies.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

Salesforce is a painful form-checker that AI is built to replace, since a proactive assistant pulling new unstructured data could finally rip it out of companies.

$232.83

— pending

SourceHow a16z Growth Invests

“Take salesforce.com... What do people do in salesforce.com? It's basically like a sophisticated form checker with some analysis. And it's brutal. It's painful to use. The future with AI is not going to be anything like that.”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span71:24

Invest Like the Bestyoutube/ Dec 9

person

CRMSaaS giants are guarding their fat margins instead of running AI agents, which guarantees they lose, exactly the mistake retailers made with e-commerce.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

SaaS giants are guarding their fat margins instead of running AI agents, which guarantees they lose, exactly the mistake retailers made with e-commerce.

$259.53

— pending

SourceGPUs, TPUs, & The Economics of AI Explained | Gavin Baker Interview

“And that's exactly what the SaaS companies are doing. They have their 70%, 80%, 90% gross margins, and they are reluctant to accept AI gross margins.”

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Invest Like the Bestyoutube/ Jan 29

person

CRMSlack sits in a precarious spot because its chat data goes stale fast, so it is easy to rebuild a copy and drain its value, while the real customer records underneath are safer.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

Slack sits in a precarious spot because its chat data goes stale fast, so it is easy to rebuild a copy and drain its value, while the real customer records underneath are safer.

$227.96

— pending

SourceHe Built The Revenue Engines for Google, Facebook & Square

“Slack has done it most publicly. Slack is owned by Salesforce. They cut off access to Glean, where Glean can no longer access Slack data. And the reason is they don't want Glean to build on top of them and then slowly suck out the value that Slack has.”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span14:50

Invest Like the Bestyoutube/ Feb 3

person

CRMSalesforce is way harder to kill than the market thinks, even with AI; ripping it out is brutal heavy lifting, and the panic selling overshoots.

directional thesisLONGpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMLONG

Salesforce is way harder to kill than the market thinks, even with AI; ripping it out is brutal heavy lifting, and the panic selling overshoots.

$210.81

— pending

SourceWhy The Laws of Startup Physics Have Changed | Ben Horowitz Interview

“I, I think people are kind of overreacting to that in the stock market and so forth. And that if you look at existing software companies, like people think, oh, they're all dead. Well, some of these guys are extremely hard targets. Like, uh, it's not that easy to take out Salesforce or SAP.”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span7:37

Invest Like the Bestyoutube/ Jun 9

person

CRMLegacy enterprise software is getting gutted, weak AI products, budgets diverted to AI tokens, no more price hikes, and AI-native rivals that could obviate their data advantage.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

Legacy enterprise software is getting gutted, weak AI products, budgets diverted to AI tokens, no more price hikes, and AI-native rivals that could obviate their data advantage.

$182.55

— pending

SourceWhy the AI Boom Is Just Getting Started

“We basically sold almost all of our software, almost all of our application software. We still have one or two small ones, but entering this year we were actually net, net short. And it really helped us in the first quarter.”

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All-In Podcastyoutube/ Feb 7

person

CRMGerstner's call is not that Salesforce dies but that its valuation re-rates permanently lower as the agentic layer captures the profit pool the app layer used to own. The stake is on the multiple, roughly halving from 30x to 17x free cash flow, not on revenue collapsing.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

Gerstner's call is not that Salesforce dies but that its valuation re-rates permanently lower as the agentic layer captures the profit pool the app layer used to own. The stake is on the multiple, roughly halving from 30x to 17x free cash flow, not on revenue collapsing.

$191.35

— pending

SourceEpstein Files, Is SaaS Dead?, Moltbook Panic, SpaceX xAI Merger, Trump's Fed Pick

“It could be true that you're not going to replace CRM, but it can also be true that it's never going to trade at 30 times free cash flow again. And it's going to trade at 17 times free cash flow because it's available in the future is now dramatically and permanently changed.”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span27:55

All-In Podcastyoutube/ Feb 28

person

CRMSacks expects Salesforce to survive but sees AI compressing its growth and possibly breaking the per-seat pricing model, which is a mild bearish lean on the growth multiple rather than a solvency short. The link is that a slower-growth, AI-pressured CRM should trade at a lower forward multiple even if revenue holds.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

Sacks expects Salesforce to survive but sees AI compressing its growth and possibly breaking the per-seat pricing model, which is a mild bearish lean on the growth multiple rather than a solvency short. The link is that a slower-growth, AI-pressured CRM should trade at a lower forward multiple even if revenue holds.

$194.79

— pending

SourceSoftware Stocks Implode, Claude's Hit List, State of the Union Reactions, Trump's Tariff Pivot

“I don't think AI is going to get rid of Salesforce, but it could eat into their growth opportunity. We just don't know. What if it changes the pricing model?”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span12:54

All-In Podcastyoutube/ Apr 24

person

CRMAt under 10x FCF with Benioff going headless on agents, Salesforce looks like a bargain in the SaaS wreck

directional thesisLONGpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMLONG

At under 10x FCF with Benioff going headless on agents, Salesforce looks like a bargain in the SaaS wreck

$178.16

— pending

SourceSpaceX-Cursor Deal, SaaS Debt Bomb, New Apple CEO, SPLC Indictment, Colon Cancer Spike

“By the way, Salesforce today is down 9%. 140 billion enterprise value on 15 billion of free cash flow. This thing is trading at less than 10 times free cash flow. It's unbelievable.”

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Mark Benioffyoutube/ May 15

person

CRMBenioff is funding one of the largest buybacks in history into a 37% drawdown, a CEO putting balance sheet behind the view that the SaaSpocalypse selloff overshot. Chamath independently calls the high-end monoliths oversold and due to re-rate up.

directional thesisLONGpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMLONG

Benioff is funding one of the largest buybacks in history into a 37% drawdown, a CEO putting balance sheet behind the view that the SaaSpocalypse selloff overshot. Chamath independently calls the high-end monoliths oversold and due to re-rate up.

$173.54

— pending

SourceTrump-Xi Summit, Benioff: "Not My First SaaSpocalypse," OpenAI vs Apple, Multi-Sensory …

“we want to buy back as much as we can. ... I've bought some great companies, by the way. Everything's a little cheaper. I like that.”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span38:35

All-In Podcastyoutube/ Jun 3

person

CRMAckman singles out Salesforce as the kind of high-priced enterprise software whose monopolistic per-customer pricing is exposed as AI lets buyers self-serve, versus low-priced platforms like Microsoft he sees as safe. The stake is a directional negative on Salesforce specifically.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

Ackman singles out Salesforce as the kind of high-priced enterprise software whose monopolistic per-customer pricing is exposed as AI lets buyers self-serve, versus low-priced platforms like Microsoft he sees as safe. The stake is a directional negative on Salesforce specifically.

$190.96

— pending

SourceBill Ackman at All-In: business quality, the SaaS apocalypse, and building the next Berkshire

“I worry more about a salesforce um than I do about your kind of um I think you got to do the work... when someone had a kind of a niche software product, they're charging, you know, 30,000 a year or something like this. I think those companies are really at risk.”

evidence attachedpaste author pricesource span6:57

All-In Podcastyoutube/ Jun 8

person

CRMAnalytical SaaS is dead: LLMs run queries directly on data, killing the incremental-module sales model.

directional thesisSHORTpublishedyoutubenot a verified trade

CRMSHORT

Analytical SaaS is dead: LLMs run queries directly on data, killing the incremental-module sales model.

$185.66

— pending

SourcePalo Alto Networks CEO: "AI Found 5 Years of Bugs in 6 Weeks"

“If you're an analytical SaaS company, it's over.”

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